Published by Linda on 13 Jul 2008 at 10:42 am
Here’s What I Do Not Understand About Brett Favre
First, understand that I come at this as a person who lived in Minnesota for about ten years. I’m used to booing Brett Favre kind of instinctively, not only because of where I lived but because my bestest friend is not only from Wisconsin, but one of those really weird Packer fans with (no lie) a giant pile of VHS tapes of old Packer games that are being saved for literally no reason except that they are tapes of Packer games, and you do not get rid of tapes of Packer games.
It was already a running joke between us before this most recent round of Brett Favre nonsense, the way he spent years playing the “maybe I will retire, and maybe I won’t” game, dicking around the team and the fans and enjoying — it seems to me — the constant attention generated by vaguely threatening to quit and then watching as everyone fretted about the possibility, and then doing the “well, twist my arm, ow, ow, okay!” dance, and watching everyone rejoice.
If you don’t really follow football, the first thing you have to understand is Favre’s well-deserved larger-than-life reputation. He’s one of those Guys, like Michael Jordan, who become the team. In Favre’s case, as his Wikipedia entry concisely notes, he “possesses most of the well-known NFL career records for quarterbacks.” The most well-known is his never-miss-a-game thing: he didn’t miss a start between September 1992 and his retirement. And sports fans absolutely love that stuff — that “iron man” stuff, where it seems like you don’t get injured because you can’t be injured, because you’re too tough.
Brett Favre is 38 now. No matter what anybody tells you, time does not stop for Brett Favre any more than it does for anyone else. Two of his last three seasons, 2005 and 2006, the guy definitely seemed to have lost a step. He threw 29 interceptions in 2005 — NFL league leader! — and his team won a total of four games. It seemed like things were winding down, especially since he kept saying they were winding down, and he kept having press conferences about whether or not he was about to retire.
But he was blessed with a 2007 season in which he played extremely well, particularly for a guy who was aging. And because it definitely looked like there was a good chance this would be his final season, the sports media spent every game in which Favre played — if you watched any Packer games last year, you know this is true — talking and talking and TALKING and talking and talking about how great he is, how sweet, how generous, how team-oriented, how brilliant, how gifted, how rare, how goooooood-lookin’. It became sort of hilarious, and at some point, I believe it was Joe Buck (but it might have been a different announcer) who became fed up himself and made a comment like, “Do you think we need to discuss how shiny Brett Favre’s helmet looks today?”
Despite a disappointing end to the season for the team, this would have been a great season to retire on. In fact, it almost seemed like a gift, like he was granted one more season in which he could be really good, so that he could be remembered as really good, instead of really unable to recognize when it was time to go. Finally — FINALLY — after about five years of dicking around, he announced that he was actually retiring. What followed was a maudlin, endless, overblown, entirely deserved Wisconsin-wide weepfest over how much he was loved, how much he would be missed, how great his contributions had been, and how grateful everyone was to have had the opportunity to pay him millions and millions and millions of dollars to come out on the field once a week and play football.
Apparently, about three weeks after he retired, he suggested that maybe he had changed his mind and wanted to unretire. (Remember, at this point, the guy was already famous for yanking everybody’s chain about retiring.) So the team said yes, agreed to take him back, and set up a contingent of folks to fly out and firm it up. At which point he reportedly took it back and said, “Never mind, I do not unretire.”
Until a couple of months later, when he said, “Okay, never mind, I actually do want to unretire.”
Note that it looks like he did this about a month before players were to report to training camp. NFL teams, you probably know, do not lounge around in the off-season waiting for the season to start, especially when they have to completely rebuild the offense after the departure of the quarterback who has started — say it with me — every damn game since September 1992. In the case of the Packers, they drafted quarterback Aaron Rodgers in 2005, and he’s been standing around lugging Brett Favre’s water bottle for the last three years as Favre waffled about retirement. But after Favre’s retirement, they committed to a new offense under a new quarterback and, presumably, they worked on developing it.
I am told by my Wisconsin sources that Favre has made it pretty clear that he doesn’t feel any responsibility for helping Rodgers prepare to be a good quarterback — in other words, no responsibility to the team after his own departure.
All of this is by way of background as I try to understand why so many sports columnists continue to unquestioningly take Brett Favre’s side and absolutely excoriate the Packers for not welcoming him back “with a parade” when he suddenly decides to change his mind again and want his job back. That particular commentator, Jason Whitlock, can think of no reason the Packers wouldn’t happily undo all the preparation they’ve done in the last, say, four months a couple of weeks before training camp other than that they’re tired of Brett Favre being right about the fact that they didn’t take Randy Moss. Really? REALLY?
It’s impossible that they’re tired of being jerked around every year? It’s impossible that they’re concerned that Favre will decide to retire again a month from now? It’s impossible that they’re not prepared to gamble on a guy who will be 39 in October and has had two so-so seasons out of his last three? Does Whitlock really need to claim that the entirety of Favre’s increasing late-career tendency to throw interceptions is the result of his psychic injury over the team foolishly not taking his advice about personnel? Is admitting the fallibility of Brett Favre so difficult that he must be defended even in a situation in which NO MATTER HOW GOOD HE IS, he is unquestionably acting like a flaky jackass? How do you hint at retirement for years, retire, tentatively un-retire, firmly re-retire, and then ask to un-retire, and not have every eye in sports journalism rolling right out of its host skull?
The other thing that kills me is that some of the same columnists are perfectly able to recognize that, viewed objectively in terms of his actual merit, Favre is not worth all that much — probably owing to his age and the unevenness of his performance over the last several seasons. John Clayton of ESPN.com gently explains that the Packers obviously have to welcome Favre back and let bygones be bygones, partly because they wouldn’t get anything better than a third-round draft choice if they try to trade him. If he’s not worth more than a third-round draft choice to anybody else, why is it so inconceivable that they might think about another quarterback?
I’m both exhausted and baffled by the repeated assertions that because of Favre’s contributions to the team, he “deserves” to be able to act like a flaky jackass if he wants to. Brett Favre made better than $10 million a year for his contributions to the team. He was adored, he was idolized, he was treated like a god. He was very well compensated for his contributions to the team. What does it say to the many guys who have handled the ends of their careers with some dignity when you imply that it makes no difference, because you’re entitled to act like as much of a freakshow as you want?
Look, if you think the Packers should take him back and see what happens and let him try to earn his job back, then that’s fine. But the idea that there is no conceivable reason other than idiocy and ego that the people who have already been through this much waffling and this much nonsense might decide they’ve had enough and it’s time to build the post-Favre Packers now instead of a year from now is absurd. Of course, it’s professional sports — everyone’s ego is involved. It would be childishly naive not to see the enormous impact of Favre’s own ego on this entire enterprise, and undoubtedly, the GM’s ego is in the mix, too.
But a total lack of sympathy for any point of view other than Favre’s, as if even now, the entire Packer organization has to leap at the command of a guy who did have a great season but was on a clear path to fading if you look at the entire trajectory of his career — and who already retired — blows my mind. Are they supposed to throw him another party when he really retires? Do we have to watch another season full of cloying tributes when that happens? What if he retires in a year and then this happens again next summer? Is there any point where embarrassment is supposed to set in?
terracool on 13 Jul 2008 at 11:40 am #
I think it’s sad. I have been a huge Farve fan for a long time – he has embodied everything I like about professional sports. Now I am a hair from thinking he is one of the all-time jerks. This retire-unretire drama for the past few seasons is mystifying to me. Why on earth would he not see how badly that damages his place in the hearts of football fans?
There are only three possible outcomes, and none of them are good. He can go to another team, likely not fit in, likely struggle, and ding up his legacy. He can go to the Packers and become a season-long distraction and delay the team’s ability to reset for the future – also dinging his legacy. Or he can stay retired. His legacy may be intact with this one, but if the jack-around goes on much longer even this one will ding him.
Someone over on msnbc.com wrote a great commentary about the Packers owing him nothing at this point. The commentator said it best when he characterized Farve’s antics over the past few years as (paraphrasing here) the annual equivalent of passing a note in grade school that says “Check YES if you think Brett Farve is still awesome!”
He is quickly undoing goodwill that he spent decades building. He could be some kind of god in Wisconsin and even among general football fans if he walks away now. He would enjoy an entire lifetime of hero-worship and accolades. And he is screwing it up.
Sad.
btg50284 on 13 Jul 2008 at 11:41 am #
I can’t even imagine what Rodgers has gone through. In 2005, he gets passed over for #1 and free-falls to 25th, and the Wisconsin media excoriates the Packers for drafting him while Fare pouts over the existence of a replacement (”Favre: I’m not done yet”). Meanwhile, the national media, always warmed by Favre’s manly glow, writes about Rodgers’s golden opportunity to learn from the all-time interceptions leader. (I mean hall-of-famer.)
Then, Rodgers is forced to spend the next several off-seasons “no comment”-ing behind gritted teeth as Peter King, Sal Palontonio, et. al., discuss The Passion of The Brett, fed by passive-aggressive text messages beamed from his tractor on 465 acres outside Hattiesburg, Mississippi. (Because MEN own farm equipment. And acreage.)
And now, for four months, he was able to relax and dive headlong into his first professional opportunity, and Brett, well, Brett’s got an itch. It’s a wonder Rodgers hasn’t moved to a poorly-decorated summer house in Door County and gotten a job at a used book store. Of course, he’d probably be stuck behind the counter, waiting for the 71-year-old assistant manager to retire….
Linda on 13 Jul 2008 at 11:45 am #
Right you are, terracool. Here’s a link to that really good MSNBC.com piece:
http://nbcsports.msnbc.com/id/25644401/
Natalie on 13 Jul 2008 at 12:10 pm #
I completely agree with all of this. I’m from Green Bay, so I’ve participated in the idol worship of Favre more than I’d like to admit, but this is getting ridiculous. There’s a huge contingent in Green Bay that are insisting that there is no way that the team will be any good without him, and that management should be run out of town on a rail if he isn’t welcomed back with open arms. Lots and lots of cries of “It’s the least we can do for him after all he’s done for us.” No one seems to want to admit that what he’s also done for us is help ruin the undefeated playoff record at home. The guy has one Super Bowl ring. One, in 17 years. He’s been fun to watch, but is certainly not the Greatest of All Time, and doesn’t have the right to jerk an entire team, not to mention town, around like this.
dimestore lipstick on 13 Jul 2008 at 1:10 pm #
I’m sick to death of national news stories making all of us here in Wisconsin out to be on Old #4’s side. Contrary to what the media would have you think, there are a heck of a lot of Wisconsin residents/Packer fans who are fed to the teeth with Favre’s antics and have been for the last few years.
Instead of developing new talent against the day when Grandpa Brett finally retired, the Packers have spent all this time kissing his patoot and letting him drag the team down. Now that they seem to have come to their senses at last, I’m hoping they stand there ground on all this, and tell him to suck eggs.
He doesn’t want to be part of the team, anyway–he just wants the (green and ) golden light of adulation to shine on him again. He’s such a media whore, I’m surprised we haven’t seen him getting out of a car with no underwear on.
Joe R on 13 Jul 2008 at 1:23 pm #
Speaking as a Bills fan, Natalie, one Super Bowl ring in 17 years sounds pretty darn wonderful. But I’m totally with you (all of you) on the rest of it. I do so enjoy seeing Linda hop all over the Favre issue. And poor Aaron Rodgers is right. It’s not a lack of sufficient sentimentality and gratitude that’s making the packers opt for the kid — they need to figure out whether he can play or not. Can’t keep putting off the future forever.
One thing, though, Linda: no mention of the speculation that the Vikings might want Favre if the Packers don’t? Hee hee hee.
The Hag on 13 Jul 2008 at 3:18 pm #
Who is Brett Favre?
letbrettgo on 13 Jul 2008 at 3:28 pm #
If they don’t ant him around – RELEASE him.
Just as a class organization such as New England did with Milloy / Bledsoe & others, do what you think is best for your own team – decide – and MOVE ON.
If you don’t think he has it any more, then don’t be afraid that he just might win in Minny or anywhere.
Natalie on 13 Jul 2008 at 4:18 pm #
@ Joe R.: Ha ha, I can’t disagree that one Super Bowl victory sure beats 4 losses. I guess the point I was trying to make is that while the national media slobbers over Favre like he’s among the elite of the elite, the fact remains that he’s only won the Big Dance once, putting him in such illustrious company as Trent Dilfer, Brad Johnson, and Kurt Warner. Favre’s consecutive start streak is a record I hope never gets beaten, but Montana he ain’t.
Linda on 13 Jul 2008 at 6:10 pm #
Joe: You would have enjoyed a conversation I had with Stephen yesterday in which I explained that one of the funny parts of this whole thing, to me, is seeing Vikings fans and Packer fans scream at each other about which fandom would be well and truly fucked (excuse me) if Brett Favre played for the Vikings.
Vikings fans: “Boy, if you guys had to watch Brett Favre play in a purple jersey and he were winning games for us? EAT IT, PACKER FANS!”
Packer fans: “Boy, if you guys had to root for Brett Favre and eat all the crap you’ve shoveled at him over the years and admit you need him to win? EAT IT, VIKING FANS!”
It’s like both fandoms want him to go to the Vikings out of pure spite.
NancyJak on 13 Jul 2008 at 6:10 pm #
You write everything I think about Brett Favre but without all the expletives thrown in! I’m SO SICK of listening to it being debated on ESPN.
It reminds me of the Joe Montana/Steve Young period of the 49ers.
Brett just needs to stay retired and move on.
Joe R on 13 Jul 2008 at 6:44 pm #
Natalie: Don’t forget Mark Rypien and Jeff Hostetler. (I will never forget!!)
Linda: Whoever Favre ends up with, I’ll end up rooting against that team hardcore. Just so you and Stephen know it isn’t personal.
KKB on 13 Jul 2008 at 7:30 pm #
Oshkosh, WI checking in to say, “Yes in-freaking-deedy, Linda!” I guess I get the timing for this round of “Yes! No! Except Yes! Oh, wait…no!” — for the first time in a long time, Farvre’s not gearing up for training camp, which must be strange, and almost certainly has led to some daydreaming up there on the tractor seat. Fine. I get that. Be wistful, be reflective, but wish the team well and let them get on with it already.
To me, this whole thing is coming across as pearl-clutching on Farvre’s part. It’s almost like he can’t believe that the Packers are actually going about their business and getting ready for the next season, even though he’s not there anymore. Like he’s offended and scandalized that there can still be football in Green Bay even though he’s not there anymore, you know? I think it galls him just a little that the Packers are going about their business without wailing and weeping and jersey-rending.
The team’s been rebuilding. Word is, they’ve been doing a lot of work emphasizing the “team” aspect, as opposed to being “The Holy One, those He likes, and the remaining cast of faceless extras fortunate enough to wear the same uniform.” Letting Farvre come back undoes all of that.
And really, what else does the team, or Wisconsin, owe him? A salary and unwavering devotion for almost half of his life aren’t enough? He was an incredible player, maybe even one of the best, but how much slack did everyone cut him when he was less than stellar? Moments that would have had fans and columnists screaming for another player’s head were excused with things like, “Everyone has a bad day. He has a bad thumb. It’s not Brett, it’s the receivers. It’s the offensive line. The thumb, it throbs in agony. It’s the turf. It’s the weather. THUMB!”
Farvre did his job. More often than not, he did it well. But now it’s time for him to lay off the manipulation and emotional blackmail and let it go.
ferretrick on 13 Jul 2008 at 9:11 pm #
I feel like its time for Favre to accept that call from Dancing With the Stars if he wants to stay in the public eye so bad.
Alison on 13 Jul 2008 at 10:32 pm #
@The Hag: from my neck of the woods he’s Fraser Gehrig.
A lot less chain yanking and a lot more “one last whirl at the finals” from him though. And he asked the Saints to re-draft him, having nominated himself for the draft.
Bo on 13 Jul 2008 at 11:58 pm #
Fantastic, Linda. Favre is like Peter Forsberg. It doesn’t matter will he or won’t he, it only matters that as many people as possible are still talking about him.
Monty Ashley on 14 Jul 2008 at 3:26 am #
I’m surprised how even-handed Peter King has been. Considering how much he’s looooooved Favre over the years, even when he didn’t look so good, I expected King to be one of those people insisting that the only thing the Packers could do is welcome him back with open arms and then offer him a release out of the goodness of their hearts. But I think he’s been pretty fair with his reporting so far.
golfnutbucket on 14 Jul 2008 at 8:07 am #
Thank you Linda for your analysis of the Favre circus. I am a HUGE football fan and although my allegiance is to the St. Louis Rams (who?), I still have an appreciation for certain players from other teams. I must acknowledge when I see great football. I’ve seen great football for the most part from Brett Favre. I appreciate his talents. However (and there’s always a “however” in life), he’s not infallible, he’s not a saint (remember the rehab stint?) and he’s not indestructible. I think what this boils down to is: that Brett Favre, just like many others before him, cannot get the game out of their system and thus cannot objectively tell when it’s time to go. Instead, they become these selfish dweebs who want only what THEY want. Look at Emmitt Smith. He loved the game so much that, even though he should have retired when the Cowboys released him, he sold his soul to the devil, otherwise known as the Arizona Cardinals. Why would you lower yourself to play for such a pathetic team? To what end? I would ask Brett to look in the mirror and ask himself: what is fair? What is fair to my team that I’m so frenetic about? What is fair to the fans? What is fair to Aaron Rogers? What is fair to my family? I doubt that his answers would be to come back to football.
Julie on 14 Jul 2008 at 11:26 am #
Finally, finally, FINALLY someone has put into words (and quite eloquently, I might add) how I feel about this dude. He has been jerking around with the team, the fans and the media for YEARS and now the red carpet should be rolled out??! Because he says so??!! I say let him rot in obscurity before he effs up this team and Rodgers any more. Go into broadcasting, Brett, if you cannot find happiness in Mississippi. You are the exact same age as me and that is TOO OLD FOR FOOTBALL. Geez. If the Packers don’t want you, call Joe Montana and ask him how it worked out for him to move to a new team. He might have some insight and some advice on how NOT to throw interceptions. You may not be a dickhead but you are playing one on tv. Very very well.
Kris on 14 Jul 2008 at 12:00 pm #
Well, Emmitt wanted to pad that all-time rushing record (and I say that as a Cowboys fan), but it was just wrong to see him in a Cardinals uniform. As for Favre, add me to the list that’s sick of this “I’m retired-just kidding” nonsense. I think he’s actually pretty over-rated as a QB. Yeah, he’s got a bunch of records (and that consecutive start one – that’s due in part to his painkiller addiction) but he’s an interception waiting to happen.
Annie on 14 Jul 2008 at 12:32 pm #
Linda, you have very eloquently described every single thought this Bears fan has had since the whole mess started. Well done. I agree with all the comments above, as well. When my husband (not a Bears fan by birth, he’s currently converting from being raised a Vikings fan…it’s been a long road) mentioned while reading an article that Farve might go to someplace like MN or Chicago, I gasped in horror. Although, I suppose we could collectively suck it up – he can’t be worse than Grossman.
Anyway, it all reminds me of Michael Jordan, and what a disaster the whole Wizards experiment was.
Stephen on 14 Jul 2008 at 11:34 pm #
It is etched into each individual strand of my DNA that I must disagree with Linda about football. It saddens me greatly to agree with her about this — almost as much as it saddens me, as the owner of all those Packer games on VHS (which I’m burning to DVD to get them out of the house, LINDA), to see Favre spiral into self-parodying assholery.
I never really went into denial about his retirement — after all, I’m three years younger than he is, and I’ve been bawling about the muscle pull I recently suffered while TRIMMING BRANCHES — but I am in deep denial about his un-retirement. I still can’t believe that he’s willing to create this much of a season-ruining distraction, in such a legacy-demolishing way, for… what, exactly? A chance to retire AFTER his body fails him and his physical deterioration keeps forcing him to miss games? While playing for, what, the Ravens? It’s all so goddamn stupid.
That said: Kris, he kicked his painkiller addiction in ‘96 and has started all 192 games since; and Annie, he’d DEFINITELY be better than Grossman or Orton. WAIT, WHY AM I STILL DEFENDING HIM? AUGH!
Beth on 15 Jul 2008 at 1:27 pm #
“and Annie, he’d DEFINITELY be better than Grossman or Orton. ”
Stephen, trust me when I say that as a life-long Bears fan, I would welcome Favre with open arms. At this point, I’d take Brett Favre, in a dome, in -20 degrees temps, with one broken thumb and the other arm tied behind his back over Grossman or Orton.
Maggie Thompson on 15 Jul 2008 at 1:37 pm #
Wait wait wait! THERE’S the IMPORTANT news:
“after all, I’m three years younger than he is, and I’ve been bawling about the muscle pull I recently suffered while TRIMMING BRANCHES”
Stephen, you (a) pulled a muscle but (more startling) were (b) trimming branches? WOW! Sorry about the horrendous injury and all but a universe of admiration over the branch-trimming. I’m SO pleased! (Did you get rid of that consarned bush that blocks the driver’s view of traffic coming up the hill? My heart melts!)
Now, who’s the Favre guy? Any relation to that “Farve” I hear so much about?
Andrea on 23 Jul 2008 at 2:34 pm #
To add to the idiocy, Favre’s been using a cell phone issued by the Packers to talk to the VIkings:
http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/blog/shutdown_corner/post/Brett-Favre-might-want-to-invest-in-his-own-cell?urn=nfl,95401
Pathetic.